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Post by Lenneth on Tue Dec 30, 2014 7:28 pm

Name: Hidden heart
Type of Weapon: Magic charm
Size: Small
Elemental Alignment: Darkness

Enchantments/Special Abilities:

*Thelen made*

-The user gains 30 mp per post. This is disabled during man a drained cooldown

-Soulmate: Hidden heart can only be used by it's owner and is summoned similar to how a keyblade acts. It manifests from the user's Darkness.

-Len's stat de-buffs and buffs effects are applied twice to targets.

-De-buffs and buffs from the user are boosted by an extreme amount

-Raw magical power is boosted by an extreme amount

Extra Information: http://rittik.deviantart.com/art/Amulet-Hidden-Heart-291049508


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Post by Amadeo on Fri Jan 02, 2015 9:55 pm

Approved

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Post by Lenneth on Sun Jun 21, 2015 11:31 am

removed teir increases/ changed it to a flat buff to DR

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Post by Guest on Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:27 pm

For having Tier 1 SYN.
This has too many abilities.
A single buff is allowed at T1 SYN.

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Post by Lenneth on Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:49 pm

edited only one

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Post by Guest on Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:42 pm

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Post by Lenneth on Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:03 pm

upgraded with my nobody

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Post by Drake Pathos on Thu Jul 16, 2015 1:08 am

You cannot share abilities with synthesis.

"-The armour while not covering his whole body it magically increase his damage reduction by serve amount
"

If this is not Thelen's upgrade, you cannot have this. T1 Synthesis cannot do this.

Your non-damaging abilities, how are they buffed? In potency? If so, can you provide an example of a skill or ability that would use this and how it would be buffed?

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Post by Lenneth on Thu Jul 16, 2015 1:52 am

dosen't character tier also deteramin the quilty of items?
thought it was like a t5 character with t1 syth could make a item better then a t1 one character with t1 syth

also share abilties?

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Post by Drake Pathos on Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:04 am

No, the quality is determined by synthesis tier.
Besides, this is not a purely defensive item, and it hardly covers your body so it's going to be a no-go for such kind of protections.

Shared abilities =/= synergized items. Shared is like, just taking a mass of items and spreading the abilities all along them with a skill. Synergized items are directly linked to eachother. I.e. ammunition to a bow.

What you are doing is trying to share buffs.

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Post by Lenneth on Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:13 am

so then can it be a magical layer that comes from the item that then covers my body that provides the protections? like a magic armor, i can move it to one of the enchanted upgrades part if that fits better.

Your non-damaging abilities, how are they buffed? In potency? If so, can you provide an example of a skill or ability that would use this and how it would be buffed? wrote:

Ability reduced a foes DR by a moderate amount, with this one that reduction is boosted to like a severe amount or mod high etc

and still not understanding sorry, which of the abilities is shared?

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Post by Drake Pathos on Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:17 am

"-The amour shares the same natural defences and buffs on len for itself"

Also, buffing the potency of things like debuffs does not instantly rank up their effectiveness from moderate to severe. I'd recommend just making the debuffs apply twice, however that does not translate to other types of abilities that work differently. It's too broad for the variety.

I will not allow the damage reduction. Damage reduction is a powerful thing and you aren't dedicating this to being an armor.

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Post by Lenneth on Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:26 am

oh

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Post by Drake Pathos on Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:36 am

I said that the buff for non-damaging effects doesn't apply the same to every type. You can't silence twice. You can debuff a stat twice, you cannot blind twice or silence twice or even use this to sap MP.

I am unsure on summon buffs, however I think you're trying to do too much with the item since none of this seems related to the item itself, as well as related to eachother in anyway


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Post by Lenneth on Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:42 am

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Post by Drake Pathos on Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:47 am

You have to base buffs on synthesis tier, not character tier.

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Post by Lenneth on Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:48 am

of the character wearing it or that made it? if the later what would be acceptable then for just a flat number?

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Post by Drake Pathos on Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:50 am

Since Thelennx is giving you this item, I'm going to base it on your synth tier. Unless you want to use a flat boost to duration. Then you can base it on Thelennx's synthesis tier. Becuase remember, this becomes your possession, not Thelennx's after he gives it to you.

Also, I don't feel comfortable using synthesis to increase magic potency by such an amount if at all. For now, I'm going to request that you remove the buff on magic potency, however if I find out you can have I will inform you.

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Post by Lenneth on Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:02 am

changed it to speed and a flat amount

If i can use magic potency please inform me

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Post by Drake Pathos on Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:03 am

Reduce the duration boost to 3.

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Post by Lenneth on Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:06 am

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Post by Drake Pathos on Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:07 am

Approved, however this is subject to change.

I'm conflicted on some things, so for now it's fine but I might come back to this after some discussion.

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Post by Drake Pathos on Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:59 pm

As I said, I am returning to this approval.

How would you justify the last 3 abilities? How does the item provide this? More than just magical, it does need to make sense.

How does it self-repair? How does it apply to combat? To what degree is it applied?

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Post by Lenneth on Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:20 pm

How did u want me to explain it? I'll find this diffcult to be explain how a magical it gives it buffs so if you can give me some general direction of how u guys want me to do this it would be appraited

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Post by Drake Pathos on Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:04 am

We'd prefer if you didn't have such abilities. I'd recommend finding something fitting the item, however not all items will have fitting abilities to fill the slots. Sometimes you have to reach out to the technical side, and that is what I'd prefer over magical justification.

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